Monday, 12 May 2008

Sex and Dating

The post below mentions how there is going to be an action night coming up in the church dealing with the topics of sex and dating. I thought it night be a good idea over the next four weeks to post on that topic to equip people a bit for when this night comes.

If you have any links to resources, sermon clips, video clips, quotes from books, personal testimonies etc. in relation to this get in touch and we'll get them posted up so everyone can benefit from them.

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9 comments:

Anonymous said...

i want to date dave kitchy, but unfortuanly hes taken... and im male. But anyway, aye this should be a good one. Personally I hold the stance that, you shouldnt even smile at the opposite sex, or even look at them. safest this way. and you shouldnt date until the day before you get married.

Anonymous said...

The following comment is a ramble and you should probably do something more constructive than read it!

HAha, Petey, good stance, I like it and commend it to anyone who wants it.
However I'd say about How many times people told me (when I was single), 'if you only relax and forget about it God'll bring someone along'

Generally I think that's NONSENSE!
God Himself, when He made everything said "It is not good for man to be alone"

He made us for relationship and put the longing in us!
We get hungry but if we don't work to earn money the Bible tells us we should starve, so God doesn't just bring food to our plates, likewise He calls us to action and courtship in seeking out a spouse.

Yes to look with lust (thinking "I'd like to hump her ass" or "check out those boobs") is sin before holy God. But to go looking for a virtuous woman who would be a great wife and companion.

I was councilling a girl a while ago who was depressed over being single and said "you'll probably tell me not to stress about it, that God'll bring someone along" but I didn't - 60% of Christians are female, now that means that 20% of Christian ladies world wide will not get a fella (good odds for the single guy), so I couldn't say that. I did encourage her to look for a guy that is striving hard after God and not to be afraid of placing herself in front of him (as Ruth did to Boaz), in order to provoke him to action (us guys can be dumb).

Enough Rambling on this
I'd recommend some teachings from Song of Solomon which you can get at http://www.worship247.org/news-item.html?&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=6&tx_ttnews[backPid]=7&cHash=5c2ffa4541

About these I'd say that I'd probably change a few things due to other books and messages i've read/heard since but then they'd be x-rated messages!

Such a vaste subject:
The puritans would say that you didnt marry because you were in love, rather because you could love!

Good books may be 'the five love languages by Gary Chapman'


Oh on a random fact MArtin Luther was engaged and married on the same day.

And there was a horrible custom in Germany at that time that the bestman was to witness the 'consumation'!
Kitchy be glad that custom isn't still on the go as you do bestman for Simon! (thats sick)

Boaly said...

Sorry about my above comment, it was a complete ramble with very little flow!

Anonymous said...

... i was only raking.lol

Boaly said...

Figured that Petey!
The only male that could carry that off would be either gay or dead!

Anonymous said...

flol, banter. Boaly, do you think that peopel should only date if they are looking for a serious relationship with the intention of marraige or, play the field while you young?!
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Boaly said...

Honestly, I believe that the desire of youth to have a girlfriend or boyfriend is a great motivating factor to become a man or woman worthy of dating and marriage.

I believe that we should only date members of the opposite sex who we could honestly see ourselves spending our future with. In this I'm aware that a certian amount of 'dates' and 'getting to know eachother' need to happen before that conclusion can be drawn.

What I'd say is that to play the field is wrong and has at core a sinful attitude of self gratification (not even speaking sexualy), but that when we date, we should be aware that for that time God has placed that girl in our possession for His glory. That she is a sister in Christ and not yet one with us and so should be treated with respect as we persue relationship with her.
Also that we should be a blessing to her walk with Christ and in our example of what Godly manhood looks like.

It is a sure thing that alot of relationships don't last so as Christians date, we must find a God exalting, Christ centered way of doing that.

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I think the Song of Solomon is great on this, in that the couple spend time getting to know eachother, they date. So datings biblical chapter 2:8-10 shows him coming and asking for a date.

I have to hold my hands up and say I do have some extreme veiws that are shaped from this book. I am leaning on the side of french kissing as being for marriage alone. The only time we see it is after the couple are married and are in foreplay getting ready to make love. (4:11)

But I'd only advise this, the main thing is that each person doesnt ask the question 'how far can i go' but 'How can I best glorify Christ in this'.
1Corinthians10:31 tells us "Whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of Christ".

I reckon dating falls under "whatever" and "all".

So although I do believe in dating and wouldn't put an age limit on that, and would even encourage the awareness that that particular relationship may not last, I'd say that to 'play the field' holds a wrong heart motive, one that is about self getting around as many delightful partners as possible, self enjoyement in this area and doesn't first point to God in it.

Anonymous said...

mate,will you come to this next action night!!!??? ur ace!

Anonymous said...

Haha, thanks bro!
But I'd not really use 'ace' to describe me, just pointing to Scripture bro!
Its ace!

Nevertheless thanks for the compliment!